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Wednesday, May 07, 2008

Good Bits, Bad Bits

Michael Nygard posted about SAP's SOA capabilities. I wasn't sure if he'd appreciated their complexity, but he does emphasize that in a comment on this post here.

We're talking really complicated, WS-*-ish bits. My advice from hands-on experience two years ago would be: stop; walk back slowly, slowly; now turn and run; faster.

Not the kind of good system attributes I think of when reading Michael's book.

1 comment:

Michael Nygard said...


It sounds like I might not have communicated my ambivalence about SAP's tools.

They are insanely complex, and they only work if you build every single project exactly the same way. It's an all-or-nothing proposition. Buying into this approach means you have to buy into a strong-governance, top-down, up-front approach to all systems. Few companies will have the financial resources, sufficiently strong governance, or political unity to succeed at this.

SAP's tools are the unavoidable endpoint of any Big SOA approach. You are also correct; that would not be my preferred approach!

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